of Herco under a 429421 lyman a good load & boolit for what needs shootin!!! The bullet at right is a commercial version that features a larger meplat and shorter nose, but it fails to offer the same level of accuracy. For heavy loads with heavy bullets (left to right: Berry 285 grain, Oregon Trail 300, OT True Shot 310), the author likes Hodgdon H-110. Since I have experimented with case position sensitive powder and found great differences, I now want bulkier powder that will better fill the case. For example, on a special Alabama handgun hunt, I once used an early S&W Model 629 to take nine head of whitetail deer with nine shots using my handloads containing the Hornady 240-grain XTP-HP bullet. | More recent .44 rifles, like the Henry Big Boy, are made with a faster 1:20" twist; this faster twist stabilizes long bullets 300 grains and heavier. of Alliant's Power Pistol. JavaScript is disabled. The SAAMI specs call for a limit on the .44 Magnum of 36k psi (40k CUP). 12 BHN alloy. I found that, for all intents and purposes, HP-38 and WW-231 are the same, so I've loaded that ever since. Gotta correct my post above. .44 Remington Magnum (Somchem Data) 24. It arrives at that relatively long distance still carrying 860 ft.-lbs. The author's favorite guns for the .44 Magnum are Smith & Wesson Model 29s of various vintages. Handloading the .44 is straightforward; about the only extra step I take is to trim cases every so often. Interestingly, the .44 Special was introduced in 1907/1908 in the first S&W N-Frame revolver, The .44 Hand Ejector 1st Model, or more commonly known as New Century or Triple Lock. Those plain-base bullets, such as the Rim Rock 200-grain Cowboy Hard Cast RNFP listed in the load chart, fired at about 1,100 f.p.s., will deposit a thin wash of lead fouling here and there in the bore after firing 20 shots or so. 44 SPL. It meters well and shoots consistently. IMR 3031 and IMR 4895 are products of IMR (formerly DuPont) Powder Company. The Hodgdon book shows that more powder gets you more velocity, but I prefer not to crowd the pressure limits with fast powders. The newest and even more powerful level, the "third .44 Magnum," is achieved with even heavier bullets. tturner53 wrote: Anybody using it in a .444 Marlin? Messages. 1.600 in. chambers to further save on powder. produced a 1.85" three-shot group with Hornadys 200-grain XTP bullet at 50 yards, and a Lyman receiver sight allowed the author to place the bullets closer to point of aim (left). SWC-JHP, .44 with 250 gr. The Hornady 200-grain XTP shot at 1,947 f.p.s. The SAAMI specs call for a limit on the .44 Magnum of 36k psi (40k CUP). DATA IS CORRECT FOR THE 44 MAG THOUGH, JUST I BRAINFARTED WITH 296 AND 680. The Smith & Wesson .44 Magnum (later known as the Model 29) was an evolution of the Hand Ejector revolvers. Even if they are up to it (we're talking a 338 PF), I am not up to it. WARNING:Handling live primers and spent primers may expose you to lead or other chemicals, which are known to the State of California to cause reproductive harm and cancer. is extensive. This bullet was intended for .444 Marlin. and 2 lb. JSP, (WC= WadCutter, SWC= Semi-WadCutter,FP=Flat Point, HP= Hollow Point, RN= Round Nose), SP=Soft Point, (JHP= Jacketed Hollow Point and if GC indicated, means Gas Check at bottom of lead bullet). 7, Ramshot True Blue and others produce modest muzzle report and top accuracy, but are still potent loads and recoil can be managed by almost any adult shooter. of Unique for around 950 fps..44 Magnum:Hodgdon's Universal can be used in place of Unique or go to 8.5 gr. on a semi-regular basis, I have had both the hammer and trigger stud pins shear off (requiring factory repair), bolts break, etc. A favorite 2400 load is with 18.4 gr and a verytight crimp. If you have a Lee Loader that is missing the data sheet, we probably have a copy of it. The CCI and Winchester primers produced nearly the same Sd firing Enforcer. SWC, 240 gr. Five powder companies have submitted their loading manuals in a format that allows Shooter to display and / or print them to your screen. Just lurking in the background. The comparison or power between the 357mag and the .44 mag was significant. Using bullets from Lead, Jacketed, XTP, Copper Plated. Re: Suggested loads for the Lee 310 WFNGC from a 44 Magnum. I have a lee pro 1000 for ammo I use plenty of 9mm and 38 special. At that point you should have stopped the progression but the bullet never stopped giving a tremendous group until the last grain (velocity reversal). Out of a Redhawk, Super Blackhawk or Super Redhawk, a 310-grain Trueshot hardcast bullet at 1,200 fps will shoot through an elk or three wild boars. 11FS combined with the Sabre Star 250-grain bullet registered a velocity of 1,464 f.p.s. He next suggested stretching the .44 Special case from 1.165 to 1.285 inches and make it a magnum, then committed S&W to offer the sixgun. According to Noody, the bullets are made with a series of sharp points on the rim of the jackets mouth around a deep hollow cavity in its core. 2 alloy (14 or 16 BHN) will generally give the best accuracy while controlling barrel leading with alox lube. 250 gr. If I had to use it, that would mean , I am not at home! It can also be used effectively in rifle cartridges, like the 30-06, so it's a good one to have for the magnum pistol loads and for rifle. The expander ball should measure at least .004 inch smaller than bullet diameter to help achieve proper bullet pull. Sorry, I should have elaborated. Thats of little concern, though, because past that distance, the energy and trajectory of the heavy bullets take a nose dive. simple easy to use.I can reload anywhere ! My velocities are so far above, not worth mentioning. I and Frank Siefer designed this bullet. Substituting a Lyman 66 receiver sight helped account for lower bullet impact; even with the Lyman sight set all the way down, though, bullets still hit 4" above aim at 50 yards. I don't need to replicate that in a handgun. To use a yet larger case, like the .44 mag . And in so doing, he embarrassed the ammunition- and handgun-makers into realizing what a great cartridge they had been overlooking. Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations. This was notably greater power than competing sixgun cartridges. For data containing 340-grain bullets, a Ruger Redhawk with 5-inch barrel was employed. Learn from CBA members that have been casting their entire life. . The 240- and 280-grain Swift A-Frame bullets are designed for hunters. .44 Special / .44 Mag / .44/40.45 ACP/.45 AUTO RIM/.45 COLT.45/70; Black Powder Molds. I do NOT have any pressure tested data. . SWC-JHP, .44 with 250 gr . The only thing that limits a man is his imagination. For maximum velocity in .44 Mag ammo reloads, slow-burning powders are recommended. Lee quality tool excellent for the self sufficient lifestyle. The 44 mag case is better suited to H110 than 680, plus my barrel is 16.5 inch, not 8 so the super slow 680 gets used better than the 296. As a result, you'll find an easy consensus on diameters: jacketed at .429 inch and lead at .430 inch. And due to its power and the need for top-quality construction in the firearm, there were few fly-by-night manufacturers who made .44 Magnum handguns. JHP There is someone out there who is muttering, "A 240 at 1,400 fps? You can get a .44 Magnum load that exceeds the working PF threshold of 195 with ease. I never saw him at the range again. Handy when in a tight situation or limited space! Shop products from small business brands sold in Amazons store. It seemed to do the best for me with 21 grains of H-110 . It was originally loaded with 26.0 grains of black powder to push a 246-grain bullet to around 780 fps, but was soon changed to smokeless powder and velocity dropped to 770, then 755 fps. Compared to the Colt SAA or the raft of other .44 competitors available then, the S&W Triple Lock was strong. I prefer that on the drive home from the range I be able to feel the steering wheel of the truck. If the bullet makes the loaded round too long, it will not feed through the action. A long-time favorite powder for big bore sixguns, .44 Special, .44 Magnum and .45 Colt, has been Hodgdon 's #4227. After that, the bullets seem to lose their stability and veer off toward the moon. All Handguns subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. It is even more flexible when it can benefit from the lengthened sight radius of a long gun, which allows for a more precise aim, and a longer barrel that increases velocity to improve the cartridges range. Lee Load Data. It also analyzed reviews to verify trustworthiness. Even though all modern .44-40 Win guns are .429", reloading dies are normally sold with a .427" expander plug. Rich Nance shows us a drill that helps with target transition and accuracy. While I have used this bullet for hunting, with success, shooting steel with it has provided more trophies. When visiting eastern gun companies in 1953, Keith again urged Remington to offer his heavy .44 Special load, but Remington resisted. The newest member of the GX4 line, the GX4 XL, comes with a 3.7-inch barrel. Plain-base cast bullets can be cast relatively soft (9 or 10 BHN) when pushed to velocities of 700 to 900 fps, which offer accuracy and are hard enough to prevent leading. I would back off John Taffins load by no more than 1 gr to start based on the strength of your frame and gun. All that advancement is rolled into a handy, trail-ready rifle. Thats why I don't load anything at 11 PM. First is Overall Length (OAL). SWC+GC, 265 gr. Included is a table with common sixguns and the maximum COAL they will accept. No frills here but its really all you need to reload this caliber (except of course your projectile, primer and powder). This is not recommended for semi, pump and lever action guns. A Lee Loader in .44 Magnum from forty years ago will use a different dipper than a Lee Loader made last year. All the top-end reloading data with pressure-tested data shows .44 Magnum loads maxing out at 35,000 psi (or 38,000 CUP). Note: 20.0gr might get you another 50 fps. When you're launching a 300-grain bullet past 1,200 fps, you want to keep the margin available in case of trouble, not use it to generate a few more . Join Date: August 8, 2013. With the Lee 300 + gr, I like H110 . work up careful like, the deer won't know if it is 1400 or 1800 !!! The optics-ready CR920 Elite pistol neatly checks the boxes of the micro-compact checklist. All of the loads you see have been provided directly from the powder companies as Lee believes they provide the best data. A forum community dedicated to Ruger firearm owners and enthusiasts. The taper-crimp station on the "IPSC/Pin/Mag" diehead setup crimps evenly and consistently enough to hold the bullets. 21.6 gr. I'm just getting back into reloading. I have everything I need in a bowling bag. By December 1956, Bill Ruger began producing his now famous Blackhawk (aka Flattop). With lighter bullets and reduced powder charge, you can transform a 44 Magnum or 500 S&W Magnum from a "bucking bronco" to a "tame pony" (or close to it at least!). While the above loads have long been discontinued, todays standard loads (from Federal, Remington and Winchester) typically contain 240-grain jacketed bullets pushed to advertised velocities between 1,180 to 1,270 fps from a 4-inch, vented test barrel, and are also realistic velocities when fired from most revolvers. After all, how many rounds of 310-grain bullets at 1,200 fps are you going to load? In studying the engineering of the cylinders (bolt notch depth, etc.) ASIN : B00162TI4A : Customer Reviews: 4.8 out of 5 . IMR4227 here , start at 18grs . However, the increase in interest in loading for them required that I take a look. .44 Remington Magnum. 32. Principal Purpose: Magnum shotshell loads, 10, 12, 16, 20 and 28 ga. Before loading a quantity of ammunition with bullets seated out for a given gun, load a dummy cartridge to be certain that combination will chamber. All right are Reserved Reload Ammo, Reloading The .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol). I trim the cases used for those loads to 1.275 inches. This bullet leaves the barrel at 1425 feet per second. Powder: Alliant 2400, 29.4 grains (70% max load), 33.6 grains (80% max load), 40 grains (95% max load) Use load data at your own risk. Look for your answers in our Forum and in our bi-monthly publication the Fouling Shot. Its a double-base, spherical powder with great metering properties that make it an ideal choice for consistent results using high volume, progressive reloading equipment. In bowling-pin shooting the .44 Magnum is very well thought of. With the exception of Accurate, the manuals are the electronic copies of the complimentary versions that are freely distributed. Lee classic loaders are the best when you are on a budget, Reviewed in the United States on April 13, 2017. Win 680 buddy (correction from 296). If the .44 Magnum has any shortcomings, I dont know what they are. But its easily removed with a solvent-soaked brush. However, the shot was only 25 yards and I broke it's neck. faster. Much of the data contained in the table lists cartridges with a COAL that exceeds the industry standard of 1.610 inches. Rarely are straight-wall cases for handguns trimmed, because cases near or at maximum length expand and actually shorten upon firing. Run at the sedate and low pressures of the .44 Special, it is both a soft-shooting load and a thumper. about how much for a starting load? The availability of a variety of powders with differing burn rates was a relatively new development when it appeared in the 1920s. CCI Large Pistol Standard Primers. In the late 1970s you could walk into more than one gunshop and buy a Smith & Wesson M29 that had been fired a grand total of six times. All Ruger Blackhawks, including the flattop (circa 1956-1963), Super Blackhawk (circa 1959-1972), New Model Super Blackhawk, Bisley, etc. It's a very good bullet. Two good ones that work well are the new Oregon Trail True Shot 310-grain Wide-Flat cast gas-check bullets and 21 grains of H-110. Please note: The Classic Lee Loader neck sizes only. Discussion: Unique is about the best all around powder, but if you want a slower burning powder, I suggest 2400. For extreme accuracy as well as power, Hornady XTP bullets get the nod. Work mostly on hitting it right, and the softer load makes accuracy easier at least for me. For the standard loads, the IPSC or pin-level loads and the standard hunting load, I don't trim brass. The extremely wide meplat will definitely DO THE JOB if driven at a decent velocity and placed well. Beretta's new APX A1 Carry shows that this historic brand is still competingin the modern market. Many range reloading and chronographing sessions for other calibers can last hours and have me launching hundreds of rounds over the screens. The end result was a great advance, but you must recognize all those reasons in order to safely load the .44 Magnum beyond .44 Special pressures. We all know the history, how Elmer Keith loaded the .44 Special case to its "true potential" and created the precursor to the .44 Magnum. The brass case for 44 magnum is only ~ .030" longer. alliantpowder.com, Accurate Arms Powder company WARNING:This product may contain steel alloyed with trace amounts of lead and other elements which are known to the State of California to cause reproductive harm and cancer. With bullets seated longer than standard cartridge lengths, powder capacity is increased, pressures are reduced and velocity can be increased above standard factory loads. These aren't gas checked and I'd like to keep the speed under 1,000 to keep the leading down. You may wish to peruse the list of cartridges first as many times the difference in 45-70 and 45/70 may mean finding data or drawing a blank. My Model 94 .44 was made decades ago with a 1:38" rifling twist. The bullet from Lyman mould 429421 (left) was designed by Elmer Keith and is probably the most popular cast bullet handloaded in the .44 Magnum. I have loading data in my reloading logbooks dating back to 1976. 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