Brian is an experienced freelance writer and technical writer who has previously written for publications such as Wide Open Spaces, Bigfoot Gun Belts, Alien Gear Holsters, and Kampgrounds of America. Not the long skinny profile for magazine feeding reliability. For deer hunting I think the barnes Tac Tx 110 grainers are the ticket and are very accurate in my BO. Some of the powders Ive used in both super and subsonic 300 AAC Blackout loads. Sig Sauer is one of those names in the firearms industry that you just can't argue with. You simply cannot find better 300 Blackout ammo for hunting. On the supersonic side, lets compare bullet drop of a 300 Blackout specific projectile like the Barnes TAC-TX 110 grain bullet to a 55 grain .223 Remington projectile traveling at 3,240 feet per second. These rounds give you great performance no matter what use case you subject them to. The ballistic coefficient of the projectile is .250 and the sectional density is .188. Good luck! She has competed on the TV series, 3 Gun Nation as well as an upcoming show called The Big Gun on Sportsman Channel, airing in Q1 2016. They are impressed by the light recoil and how cheap it is compared to buying new AA shells for practice or matches. containers. He used 120-130 grain class bullets. I ran them through both a short 8.5 in barrel with and without suppressor and a 16 in barrel. With subs, dont work UP. by Makintrax73 Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:46 am, Post Hornady is one of the top ammunition manufacturers worldwide. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. I worked up to and settled on 15.0 grs Lil'Gun with a 147 gr FMJBT. I personally, and after reading a lot on 300blktalk, determined that Lil-Gun was potentially a better powder for the mid weight loads. Despite the price, this Fiocchi full metal jacketed ammo gives you outstanding consistency and reliability. After three tries abandoned the test. From their home in Montana, Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha follows Chad, Marsha and their two boys-Walker and Wyatt-across the world in hunting adventures. AK and 300BLK are pretty much identical at 16 with ~125gr projectiles. A couple of dozen projectile weights It is just that important and helpful. It has digested all rounds I have put through it without one hiccup. I have dropped Lil Gun as well, but for different reasons. I am using CBI pistol powder. These rounds are designed to fire and cycle smoothly through suppressed modern sporting rifles. I'll have to run this in quick load to check it out. "Don't tell fish stories where the people know you; but particularly. They are based in Nebraska and have been around since 1949. Remington is generally a safe option for good quality, reliability ammo. 245 grain lead RNFP IMR 4227 8.8 1,033 N/A Regina Milkovich has been the leading female in precision rifle shooting since she first picked up a rifle in 2009. That being said, I don't plan on adding one to the rotation as I neither reload nor do I own a can until they can be had sans stamp. I bought that, a Model 1 Sales chrome BCG & charging handle, and a set of Lee Pacesetter .300 AAC Blackout dies (because they were the only ones I could find in stock) and proceeded on my adventure. Love tinkering with different bullets and powders. Along came the .300 AAC Blackout = the answer to my angst of scraping that brass! His proven expertise in firearm manipulation and shooting techniques has enhanced the skills of countless individuals and agencies. by BobinNC Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:42 pm, Post It seems like the 300 AAC could do the same at similar ranges. A forum community dedicated to Sharpshooters and Sniper enthusiasts. SAFETY DATA SHEET GET RELOADING DATA * You may also like . Keep your loads at least 100fps up or down sound speed and they will be more accurate . If you want 300 blk to feed properly use this method; Mark your bullet ogive at .250 with a sharpie. Ive had a little trouble with some subsonic loads cycling, but have found powder combinations that make it run. I'm ready to start loading up a new round. Here is a link to leatherhead bullets. I shot a lot of Sta-Ball 6.5 and it worked well beyond expectations. One is hard pressed to find a nicer person. Todd is also a sought-after firearms instructor for military, law enforcement, and competitive shooters around the world. 300 AAC Load Test For 150 gr. Minute variations in bullet seating depth. 220 matchkings. I gave up on trying to truly see how accurate they were when I was sighting in my scope, I was happy then with 5 shots inside a 2 inch group at 50 yards. In that book, you can compare pretty much anything about any cartridge to anything else about any other cartridge. From Hodgdons burn rate chart: 54 Alliant 2400 55 Ramshot Enforcer 56 Accurate Arms No. Speer Gold dots have a flat base and the Speer data goes up to 20 grains. If you have a suppressed AR in 300 Blackout and want to stock up on affordable ammo, this is a great option. Even adapted a supersonic load using WC820 from the .30 carbine. The 16.5 grains of H110 at 16.5 is moderate. An Infamous round created by the Advanced Armament Corp in partnership with Remington in order to allow a .30 caliber to be used with an M4 with nothing more than a barrel exchange. With Sig Sauer, you know that the attention to quality and precision can't be beaten. Note: 155 GR bullets can be used for all 150 GR data listed. Clearly the subsonic loadings are not intended for long range use, although it might serve as an exceptionally lightweight mortar. After graduating college, Ryan moved to Tulsa, OK to take a position as a plastics engineer and in 2011 began shooting 3-Gun competitively. The value for money factor is also high with this one, it is a great type of ammo to stock up on. And the Blackout makes a bigger hole. Hi . Make an introduction to Jake and youll instantly receive a big grin and firm handshake. Sub rounds are quite finicky and need to be worked up for the individual barrel/gun. Lbs,Note,OAL,Twist Rate . Sig Sauer is a name that is immediately associated with quality and innovation. Converting an AR-15 to fire 300 Blackout is as simple as swapping its barrel. In just five years, he has earned an impressive shooting resume with consistent top finishes at national level events. I build the #TTFPowderStand for the Lee Turret Press. I use 1680 for subs in 300bo, but i use a 220gr bullet. Hunting, Lapua 200-grain SP Mega and Cutting Edge Bullets 230-grain Subsonic Raptor. The max load on a 300 Whisper load (from what I remember, don't quote me) for 150 grain projectiles is somewhere around 18 grains of H110. The 300 Blackout's .30 caliber bullet can be made especially long, and as the result may weigh up to 220 grains quadruple the weight of the typical 223 Rem round's. So heavy a bullet conveys a subsonic muzzle velocity and correspondingly softer report. I am a reloader and these days I shoot to reload rather than reload to shoot so the development aspect appeals to me to a point. Possibly excellent for plinking use, but have been unable to get consistent accuracy with it. By design, the cartridge case is identical to that at the .223 Remington, with the exception of being trimmed to a shorter length and reshaped to fit the .30 caliber bullet. Sub zero, -32F, 1088 + (-32+32) = 1088 fps. He took his first turkey and mule deer at age 6 and his first bull elk at age 9. Its more expensive than .223 / 5.56mm and much harder to find. You are using an out of date browser which is likely incompatible with our website. In that time I have used it for both hunting and competition. Bullets with good expansion will take care of large game, too. I can see the drop, but to the Left ? After serving his country, George spent 20 years serving his community as a police officer. With 300 Blackout, you have options from low subsonic rounds to high-powered long distances ones. Hornady fmj-bt, since they are relatively inexpensive. NOTE: YOU ABSOLUTELY UNCONDITIONALLY HAVE TO HAVE A CASE GAGE! If you don't mind buying ammo that was not manufactured in the U.S.A., Magtech is a great option at a decent cost. . The muzzle velocity is 1900 fps and the muzzle energy is 1203 foot-pounds. I have loaded 38 spl with 5.4 grains with a 125g bullet. The idea of evaluating your personal shooting needs is a recurring theme when getting advice on ammo selection. The one missing from this photo is Accurate 1680 which is an excellent all around solution for 300 Blackout. Well, it starts here. Similar problems have been experienced with 9mm submachine guns. 125 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips and 125 grain Hornady SST bullets are also a great 300 Blackout solution. Don't be deceived by the low price, this product made our list for very good reason, the quality is impressive for the price. I should add that most of what I have read indicates that max loads have much greater pressure variations. I ended up using Lil' Gun powder, for my sub loads with the hornady 150gr fmj/bt. Hodgons website only has the maximum load data with 8.4gr and a COAL of 2.26" for Sierra 220gr HPBT. 09-16-2021, 07:46 PM #2 badguybuster Boolit Buddy Join Date Oct 2013 Location West (By GOD) Virginia Posts 325 The powder used in these rounds burns cleanly and the primers are reliable. I reviewed this rifle at the beginning of this series you can read about it here. Not only is this ammo accurate and reliable, but it also offers superior consistency for tighter groups without flyers. by jwb47 Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:36 pm, Post Ryan and Dianna continue to not only compete, but train and film all over the country. I see no indications of excess pressure, so I'm thinking about trying another 1/2 grain after I have the barrel melonited. When it comes to recoil energy, assuming youre using an 8 pound rifle, the Blackout hits you less with 4.3 foot-pounds compared to the AKs 6.34 foot-pounds. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. VDL. Here in S.C. To hunt coyotes at night you have to use a sub sonic round. This makes it a good option for a standard tactical round to tune your AR around. As a footnote, my opinion of the .300 AAC Blackout round is that it is the .22S (short) version of the .308 Winchester/7.62 NATO round. The aac-sd with 110gr Sierra varmint bullets will shoot a clover leaf group but with that being said the 300blk is the most temp sensitive cartridge Ive ever fired Ill stick with 6.8 for deer. Interesting. spilled shot or bulged cases. For hunting, I would ask others to chime in, but if you have a 168 grain bullet that is designed to perform at the velocity youre going to get, that should be an option too. I also don't bother with subsonics as I have no suppressor. Aguila is remarkable for the value for money they offer given their excellent reliability. The load info for supersonic rounds was 16.5 grains of H Lil' Gun loaded to 2.15 oal. Exceptions would be just that. He still serves the NKCPD as a Range Officer volunteer today. They are jacketed, tipped, and cored for the best possible ballistic coefficient. He apparently did get physics and he really likes guns. Ive shot a bunch of 168 grain Sierra MatchKings and its a great plinking / target round. Perhaps as the popularity increased as a 300 Blackout powder Hodgdon took notice and did a lot more testing. All together, this package will give you excellent consistency in velocity. Growing up, Brian spent very little time indoors, with his passions being split between baseball and spending time in either the river, the desert, or the mountains. His last three years of service were spent at the 1st Marine Division Scout Sniper School as the Primary Marksmanship Instructor. 22.5 C under a 115g projo!!!). Lead Fouling was a problem as 245 gr Missouri Bullet is .309 Diam. Some of their bullet and cartridge designs have reached legendary status. This ammo expands upon the inherent reliability advantages of the 300 Blackout to offer excellent impact and accuracy. They come in boxes of 20. loadedround, I've loaded the 300Whisper's multiple leade angle chamber designed for the 220-240gr projectiles since it's inception 30+ years ago & to date. This comparison to the AK comes up all the time; but really it shouldnt. But its insanely cool, quiet and useful at ranges of 100 yards or less. Experience tells me the 550 press prefers a ball type powder. 300 Blackout 220 GR SIE HPBT Hodgdon CFE BLK .308" 2.260" Starting Loads Maximum Loads CALIBER BULLET WEIGHT MANUFACTURER POWDER BULLET DIAMETER It features a calibrated ballistic compensation reticle for supersonic and subsonic rounds. 220 grain Sierra Matchking Lil Gun 9.0 1,149 1.1 Its a different caliber with its own merits. AR platform, 8" Wilson Combat barrel, standard gas port size and gas block, obviously pistol lenght gas system, 1-7" twist. It is hard to find more precise factory ammunition. Evolving from its military roots, the 300 Blackout has developed into a versatile cartridge that is useful for hunting, home defense, and target shooting both competitive and non. Diannas also won the 2015 NRA World Shooting Championship Ladies title. Things dont like to travel at or close to the speed of sound ! Much bang for the buck, especially for plinking loads. Vintage Boxes - Gear, Shell, Case, Primer, Group Buys Design, Active , Waiting and Archives, Closed Buys/Waiting for delivery/in shipment, If this is your first visit, be sure to 500 yards -399.13. for starting load data. Thanks for your help. Out of my AR 1/8 the 150gr sst 16.0 gr h110 is really accurate and my go to for hogs and deer as a brush gun. Ah, too many picadillos for me! I WISH people would LEARN HOW to convey a logical and understandable message. This line of Aguila rifle ammo has been designed to offer high performance with low recoil. That much energy gives you the best in downrange stopping power for mid to large game. When suppressed, the 300 Blackout is relatively silent while still maintaining hard-hitting ability. If you are sgooting jacketed you are hard pressed to find a better powder than Lil'Gun. The bottom line? I used a Leupold Mark 4 MR/T 1.5-5x20mm optic for all accuracy testing. No problem. 2011 2022 2023 2026 Propellant Case Primer Weight (grains) Muzzle Velocity (feet/sec) Weight (grains) Hodgdon Lil'Gun Lake City Federal 205 18.2 2013 20.0 C Alliant Power Pro 300-MP Lake City Federal 205 17.1 1866 19.2 The projectiles are Hornady's proprietary Sub-X (subsonic expanding) bullets with a lead core. I am attempting to work up loads using 150gr. No more spilled shot or bulged cases. Lil'Gun is my super powder. Although the 300 Blackout was originally designed just for urban tactical situations, developments such as cartridges like these prove that the caliber is capable of almost anything you throw at it. Michael Lutes is the managing editor and owner at Gun Mann. Shooting off the shelf 125gr bullets the two guns shoot just fine averaging 2050fps and 1960fps repectively. I tinker with 300blk., have shot several hundred rounds with various combinations of components. Of course, all of these options will have incredibly diverse trajectories, and thats what gives scope makers fits over the 300 AAC Blackout. Bullet: 150-grain Nosler Ballistic Tip Powder/Charge: Hodgdon Lil'Gun/17. Jaclyn has also taken up Extreme Long Range matches, including King of Two Miles in New Mexico, where she placed 14th out of 80 invited competitors. All of my super loads are done with Lil'Gun. That isnt to say you have to buy a specific type of ammo for everything you want to do with your 300 Blackout rifle. 125 graIn Sierra MatchKing H110 18.0 2,146 0.94 containers. [ Not Rocket Science ]. The higher the grain the quieter the round when suppressed. Plinking, Varmints, and Self-Defense:Walthers New WMP in, Guns and Rotors: The XM-215 .22 Rimfire Helicopter Defense. Im just north of Sandpoint, Idaho and at 2300 foot elevation Ive found my suppressor works well on a warm (80+deg) day with loads upto 1140 fps, so dont forget the elevation factor in local conditions. Thanks for reading. by Ben B. Sponsored by many of the hunting industries leading manufacturers, he has conducted over a thousand hunting and fishing seminars across the United States and has hunted and fished extensively around the world. This match-grade ammo is nothing, if not accurate. Celebrate diversity! Ryan has volunteered for HAVA and Freedom Hunters events getting wounded vets into competition and/or hunting. I Don't Get It - AllOutdoor.com. Aguila hails from Morelos, Mexico. Ballistics can be a tricky thing to judge because any judgment will be contingent upon your intended use case. Personally I'd call it excellent considering that its an inexpensive upper. Never had a factory round through it. BEST BULK BUY: Magtech 300AAC Blackout 200gr, 50rds. It is a Swiss-German collaboration founded in 1979. They make excellent .308 Win rounds. This makes the 300 Blackout an outstanding home defense round. Each round is loaded using cutting-edge electromechanical monitoring for perfect alignment and concentricity. With so many options in ammunition, it can be hard to choose the best type. I use 15gr seated to the cannelure for plinkers with that bullet. If you look at the standard 55 grain .223 Remington at 3,240 feet per second, that yields 1,281.8 foot-pounds of muzzle energy and 3.16 foot-pounds of recoil energy. It works perfectly on varmints and mid-sized game. You can get something in the 150 to 168 grain range that will move in the 1,700 to 2,000 feet per second range. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. 125 grain Hornady SST IMR 4227 18.3 2,085 1.3 An agile, short-barreled M4 carbine in 300 Blackout addresses the deficiencies of both. Lets see dozens, times dozens, times dozens carry the one I count 17 billion load combinations required to do a full velocity and accuracy analysis. 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