I paid 185 for mine used in excellent condition that holds 8 rounds with an adjustable length folding stock with pistol grip. Ive also discovered that the metal trigger guard and housing on high end 870s can,also be dented and even cracked if dropped. Not really, any competent smith should be able to do it. Yes, the old jasper is heavy, but it has never failed to work, puked out a shell, or stove piped. Its an awesome option for home defense, deer hunting, upland birds, ducks, small game, clay pigeons, etc. And it did the same thing repeatedly. We hate SPAM and promise to keep your email address safe. This tells me that there quality control is not where it should be expecially when it comes to there defensive/combat shotguns. Anniversary seal stamped on the receiver, including the Model While the finish and design on the 870 is sleek and solid, the 500 has some exposed mechanics and a strange slotted lifter design that I just dont like. The loose tolerances on the slide. I did replace the buttstock pad with a softer version, but otherwise its stock out of the box. introduced the new RemChoke system (with If you want to spend twice as much money by an 1100 series. (for $79.95), Model 870SB Skeet Special Grade (for Is there no moderation on this forum? In my opinion the mossberg 590 is superior to all of them owners of the 590 had described it as indestructible. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. All ratings are relative compared to the other weapons in the guns category. a new 31-inch overbored barrel with RemChoke system or fixed, line. The Model 870 Express Super Magnum Turkey/Waterfowl is just the dual-purpose bird slayer you've been waiting for. I like it since I like to switch up shooting from left and right shoulder. REM Arms Firearms 870 Side Folder 20 Gauge 3" 18" 6+1 Matte Black Oxide Rec/Barrel Black Fixed Right $ OUT OF STOCK. 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Please do some research and real tests and then write to the masses I guess you missed the test where the mossberg was adopted by the marine corps etc and remington literally refused to compete against mossberg in the military trials screw remington i had one and a friend had one and they dont like to eject properly literally never ever an issue in many many years and many many mossbergs it feels better isnt even an article who let you write????? The Outside of that one incident, our 870s have walked and talked across Texas. In regards to recoil, its like any other pump-action shotgun. Old comment, but i see this comment often. What do you think of the Remington 870? And then well see if they still work. with 26-inch or 30-inch, full choke, vent rib barrel, a no-sheen, Remington also offered a 12-gauge, Not saying there is a better choice for the money, the Mossbergs have always worked but felt cheap too. The 870 is a classic pump-action shotgun that has 12, 16, 20, 28 gauge variants as well as the .410 Bore. Case in point I have an old Sig P220 that is still one of the finest shooting pistols I have ever shot. Instead of sending it back I just tried to deal with the sight issue by aiming high left. 870TC Trap Grade (for $159.95), Model 870TD Trap line. Just spray it out with spray gun cleaner, let drain/dry, and re-lube. Light contour barrels for the Remington Model 870 shotgun were designed in 1992, and became common on these shotguns thereafter. Without a subpoena, voluntary compliance on the part of your Internet Service Provider, or additional records from a third party, information stored or retrieved for this purpose alone cannot usually be used to identify you. 870 SPS-T Youth RS/TG Synthetic Turkey Camo Shotgun with Its the first thing Id change on my Remington guns. Im a shotgun nerd, and Ive experienced a variety of different actions actions from Benelli, Mossberg, Winchester, and more. ($109.70). It was not available My colleague had issues with the gun 870 express tacti-cool locking up and not ejecting the shell, the last time was so bad we removed the barrel and with some positive nudging we got the barrel off and then had to pry out the shell (He was using manufactured rounds and not my re-loads) noticed it was a bit dirty in the load block and extractor but not too bad. Will try that since I failed to mention in my other post about scratching so easily that I also am diligent about using CLP all over the gun to protect. Remington also introduced a left-hand 12 gauge Model Nice engraving on older ones (new ones are plain) as an extra cost option on new ones. Here are just a few of my favorites: The Magpul SGA is the best shotgun stock on the planet. Subscribe to Pew Pew Tactical's sales and deals email. A Win 1300 12ga is a bit better to duck/goose hunt with. Perhaps if the words in the comment trigger and hammer were reversed, the true picture would emerge, viz., by having the HAMMER cocked on a live round, you could very quickly jack 6 rounds out in a hurry just by holding the TRIGGER back, as there is nothing to keep it from following the bolt freely. (As said, it is the lack of trigger disconnect from the sear which allows this, not following the bolt freely, whatever that means.) In Remington 870 standard features: Price: $389-$999 BUY NOW Remington 870 Models and Variations The Remington 870 comes in hundreds of variations chambered in 12, 16, 20, 28 gauges and .410 bore. Forty years ago we would buy used Remington 870s at gun shows other dealers or out of ads in newspapers. The 870 has been riding in the back of a patrol car for close to 8 years. Remington also rifled cantilevered, 20 gauge gun. Due to a shortage of American For its basic use-HD and target practice, it,fits the bill( heck my rattling maverick 88 proved an equal value to its more expensive 500 family member). many years of service. These shotguns sold for $132.47, and Itll work with everything Ive ever put in it, and like the man says, thats what counts. The were 12.1 barrel, quite a bit larger than a Serbu Super Shorty but also cost about $300.00 less so I went for it. This raises the height of the bead and ensures accuracy and a proper point of aim/point of impact. First Look: Ares SCR Rifle, and How It Works. The gun also features improved action bars for a silky-smooth action. locking block and slide was devised for a smooth and effective Fantastic shotguns, all of them. I purchased a mossberg 590A1 and had nothing but problems with it. People knock mossbergs for their rattle, which some confuse the loose fit to cheap-move up a notch in cost, like the 590, and it disappears. Compared to a Mossberg 500, for example, the gun is head-and-shoulders above the competition. The shop swapped out the pistol grip for a standard stock. The Streamlight TL Racker replaces your pump with an integrated light. Beyond these three designs, we also have the Special Purpose Marine model, the TAC-14 firearms, the SuperMag, the Police Magnum models, and likely a dozen other models between limited configurations, military models, and distributor exclusives. While the stock and forend might not seem to be of the highest quality, theres no doubt that the action itself is up there with what weve been seeing for ages. Manufacturing date was in the serial number. While it wont knock off the 590, my express tactical is more solidly built than the 500 and maverick 88( 500 and Maverick 88 both experienced cracking trigger housings, and I jad to replace them via a quick mail order to Brownells), The basic 870 can be easily upgraded over time to save you some change. Click to reveal Produced every year since, the Model 870 has Never had any loading or operational problems. My 28 barrel is my all around shotty, and i want to keep it that way. The aftermarket for accessories is enormous, putting most other shotguns to shame. I bought an 870 and love it, About 3 decades ago, I spent 6 years in the Coast Guard reserves, serving as a small-boat engineer and boarding officer. Remington Standard or Deluxe versions. Over the next three years 1,503 pairs would be sold. I have been debating between Mossberg 500 and the Remington 870. Initially, I was looking for an all around shotgun like I carried in the military and in Vietnam. You get 1,000 lumens of bright white light for target identification with massive ambi controls and full control over the light and weapon. I just assembled it straight out of the box and started stuffing shells up its pipe. For the money a maverick (mossberg) 88 is the best shotgun you can buy. This particular model doesnt have much of a recoil pad on it, so Ill probably use the slip on buttpad I bought for my 30/30 Marlin, my shoulder was sore after the 2 circuits. But the good thing is that you can always replace those parts. $16.78. Model 870 Express Jr. NWTF Edition shotgun. I DID INSTALL A PISTOL GRIP STOCK AND A NEW FOREND WITH A VERTICAL GRIP AND MORE IMPORTANTLY I BOUGHT AND INSTALLED THE POLICE BARREL VERSION AT 18 FOR THE SLUGS I USE WHICH IS ABOUT 90% OF WHAT I RUN THROUGH THE GUN. Nasty weapon. I love my bare bones 870. my Mossberg broke after putting 40 rounds threw it and the best part was when Mossberg refused to help resolve the problem. The 870 you bought looks very much like the 870P (for police). become the most successful single model gun in Remingtons 189-year Got locked-up problem with the very first shot and the second, and the third, and 10 stuck-ups out of 17 shots. Synthetic-Turkey Gun. It is worth the extra money. All rights reserved. Older 870 inherited from dad still takes all the pheasant your dog can flush. Understand, one problem can spoil the whole bunch. Otherwise please excuse my ignorance in regards to the age of a forum type comment section and commenting years later. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for statistical purposes. google_ad_client: "ca-pub-5708522835464660", AIM Sports Remington 870 Shotgun Pistol Grip Polymer Black. produced the Model He currently teaches concealed carry courses and enjoys spending time in Floridas Nature Coast. AIM Sports Inc Remington 870 M-Lok Modular Rail System (3) $199.99 (Save 25%) $149.99 . You can crow all you want, but what you have there is an overly complicated slow to reload shotgun that is inexplicably heavy while still recoiling severely with the safety in an inaccessible place and lacking in customization options that still manages to cost more than its superior competition. I bought a used 870 Wing Master back in the 90s in 20 ga.. My gun dealer said it was made in 1967. Get proficient on YOUR time. Remington Well, ok, Id probably take it free but trade it for something older or from a different brand. Just FYI, I try to keep an open mind as there seems to always be something on a gun that I initially disagree with but always find (with maybe a couple exceptions) that with a little practice, they often can change my initial opinion. I say loved because it was stolen last week. commemorative firearms with the 150th I mean, right where my left thumb goes naturally. google_ad_client: "ca-pub-5708522835464660", bought a new Mossberg 500 in 1980 for a long time it was the only shotgun I owned. $499.00 $449.00. In Remington 870 20 Gauge LW Magnum Vent Rib 28 Inch mod choke Barrel. My BPS setup is the standard Hunter with 26 barrel, and I bought a 22 upland barrel (again not cheap) that can be used also for home defense. they even still make sweet 16s. When I took off the old one (and mind you, it had only been on there for not much longer than a month), it had rubbed its way down to the bare metal seemingly effortlessly. The quality of the Remington 870 has greatly declined within the last 25-30 years and has only gotten worse. Be afraid. Other than that, Im done with Remington for a while. However, the 870 Wingmaster will always hold a space in my heart. The barrels in this category are specific to the Remington Model 870 unless otherwise noted. operation. 870. Remington 870 Wingmaster TB Trap Variant 2 3/4 inch 30 Full .687 Fixed Choke Very Good Condition 196. Remington 870 Fieldmaster 12 Gauge Pump Action Shotgun 499 Ships To Store 4.9 (14) Kel-Tec KSG 12 Gauge Pump-Action Shotgun 829 Ships To Store 3.2 (12) ATA Arms ETRO 09 12 Gauge Pump Action Shotgun 199 Ships To Store 4.4 (13) Mossberg 590 Shockwave .410 Bore Pump-Action Shotgun 449 Ships To Store Got my Mossberg in 1980 never had a problem with it. The 870 is a great, and iconic gun in its own right, but if were talking about icons, but what about new york?! TTAG, could you do a review on the other guns that got lifted from my safe? I like exotic things and those exotic things you can get in Europe. Model 870 shotgun! Kit cost is around $300 and what one ends up with is a platform that shorter than an M4, easly used from small and tight spaces (cars and inside structures) that retain its legal specifications in all 50 states and under federal guidelines. Friend bought a new 870 and got it hot out of the box no lube- jam-o-matic. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. The cyl. For anyone who has an 870, or for that matter a Moss 500, and who has wondered about what it would be like to own a BULLPUP version of a 12ga but found the price tag for a production version to be on the excessive side. It was cold, and while we didnt get any rabbits that night, its still one of my fondest memories. I just swapped a Vang Comp oversized safety on my new 870 Tactical and a Hogue Tamer grip. You can now eject the chambered round without feeding the next one. Just my take on it. I bought an 870 from Wally World, and it locked up on firing. Anyway, pay thru the nose for one of the few remaining Win Mod 97s worth buying, or buy a new Norinco copy, with by the way modern steel. Is the Date of Manufacture spelled out plainly? Remington beginning of the second half of the 20th SGW REMINGTON SPR310 O/U Shotgun 20GA . $93.57. Enter your email address to receive our latest deals, personalized offers, and MVP access to pre-order notifications.See Details, 2023 Academy Sports + Outdoors. If youre shooting clays and burning through two or three cases of target loads in an afternoon you have to stop and clean up so youre not tripping over shells. One of the key points was that the 870 uses a two rail system for the pump which keeps it from twisting and binding while racking. Weatherby Element Turkey Gun. +1 on that. stocks and hard carrying cases, selling for $395 the Please include what you were doing when this page came up and the Cloudflare Ray ID found at the bottom of this page. Its the same Rem 870 weve come to know and love, and it feels as solid as ever. This type of glowing report was the main reason I bought an 870 (Express model). I have been looking at the Mossberg 590A1 for a long while. It had a telescoping stock, pistol grip and ghost ring sights. Remington Premium SuperCell recoil pad. You'll now receive newsletters of our best articles on techniques, In this year, the All American Trap Guns $295.00), Model 870F Premier Grade (for $585.00), Model Ratings (Out of Five Stars): Your correct the Remmingtom sucks and now I have to ask for repairs. replacement for the rugged but outdated Model 31 pump-action shotgun. May i suggest that you look at Bullpup Unlimited out of Tennessee. Let us know in the comments below. introduced the Model 870 SP Special Purpose Magnum gun Reading this article and related responses about the 870, wondering if anyone knows of availability of replacement barrels for my left hand 870 Wingmaster model LHTB, specifically shorter barrels around ~18? The recoil can be fierce, largely on your load selection. cantilever scope mount, and a black synthetic stock and forend Oh and the only reliable left hand conversion for the 870 requires a change to a left safety right eject trigger plate which runs around $90 plus shipping from remington. If you want to know everything about how to fix 870s get the book The Remington M870 & M1100/M11-87 Shotguns A Shop Manual by famous gunsmith Jerry Kuhnhausen from gunbooks dot com. The older one has gone in the lake at least three times before I owned it and had nary a spot of rust on it, even though the previous owner never cleaned it. Remington announced their four-millionth Model 870 Shotgun! And, with an uprooted tree for a rest, that 870 would put slugs through the same hole, at least once, for each of us, one afternoon, at appox. I shot more with the 870 and still had no problems. Henry Single-Shot Turkey 12-Gauge. Recoil from 3 1/2 loads is pretty nasty. Gauge, and the Model 870 Express Youth Gun. Is there anything I should be looking for? That said, several gun manufacturers have let QC slip over the last decade or two. Thats the part riveted into the frame, correct? However, I have read that replacement 20 gauge barrels for these heavy frame models are more expensive and harder to find. The Model 870 TC Trap Both use them, and its a cost and weight saving measure, but Ive mine actually crack and break on my on 500 and lesser cousin Maverick 88( and dont say the 88 is not a mossberg-they directly advertise the 88 as a mossberg on their public site); this hasnt happened on my current budget 870 and Ive noticed the polymer trigger guard and housing flexes a little compared to the hard molded mossberg equivalent. Model 870 Classic Trap Shotgun with 30-inch vent rib, It weighed only 5 lbs., 12 ozs.. Remington offered the famed rifle sights on the barrel, outside of beads, which offer great slug capability. They looked high and low for any 97 parts, and built as many guns as they could from them. To improve their shotguns (especially those for home defense) by making them pretty much ambidextrous seems to me a no brainer. With Remingtons recent rebirth, weve decided to explore one of the kings of American shotguns. My 870 is a home defense gun. 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